Moderator: A Washington viewer says, “I appreciate the answer about pain. I’m experiencing some dissolution of the long held misunderstanding about the subject. It feels to be deeper than mental.”
David: Pain is real. If you are in a human form there’s going to be pain. Things are going to not always turn out the way, the way it feels good. Sometimes things don’t turn out the way if feels good. It doesn’t mean you are too attached and you know, somehow you are resisting life. There’s real pain. There’s real sorrow in life. It would be just absolutely ridiculous to try to argue the point that there’s no sorrow in life. When things like that are said by spiritual teachers and traditions, just think of it as marketing. “That everything is joy. There’s nothing but joy. Joy is all around or nothing has ever been created. I have never been born therefore how can I ever suffer?” That’s advertisement. That belongs in a magazine with a picture. Life is real. Life is absolutely real. Living and dying have tremendous impact on a sensitive and authentic consciousness. It’s only a fake who doesn’t feel things or who doesn’t want to feel things; wants to run away from experiencing things. And at the same time I don’t want to go into a romantic loving of pain and sorrow. That also is not the point. That’s also grossly inaccurate, that somehow life has to be lived Van Gogh-style.
You just have to understand that life is made up of tremendous Light in which nothing has ever been born and tremendous darkness where matter comes into being. Now by Light and darkness I don’t mean good and evil. I just mean un-manifestation and manifestation. Things can only come together in a gross form on a plane where things are coagulated, where everything comes into hardness: water, air, fire, ether, earth; where you need those elements to produce forms.
David: Yeah. Participant: David, I have a question. David: Oh good, I'm so happy. Participant: Um, I have read about "I Am That" from Vedas and J. Krishamurti and UG and Nisargadatta Maharaj. David: No not UG, UG would never say that. ...
You know, you can't think your way into the Divine. You can't get there through strategy. Strategy is inherently dishonest. You can't make a deal with the Divine to become it. The whole idea is: all deals are off. All deals are off and what you ...
David: I'd like to see you have something. I'd like to see something really go off in you whereby, you know, you are really taken by your own divine self, that has no dilemma in it and that is very clearly understood and realized, in just a ...
David: You may go through many amazing experiences in the meantime. You may go through repeated openings of a most magnificent kind - you know, the things you read about in the lives of saints and sages; oneness opening up and timelessness, ...
There are two kinds of devotion. One is like a monkey, monkey-devotion, where the little baby grabs the waist of the mother and holds on. And that monkey, that mama, will jump from tree to tree. Once in a while, though, there could be a slip and ...
If you are lucky you’ll begin to realize you are always living in That. Always, not sometimes. You’ll get rid of this idea of always and sometimes and then what’s left over is always. Always does not mean sometimes extended in time; lots of ...
Participant: So the mind can partake of the Bliss of the Awakening and feel satisfaction from that, as long as it's not trying to co-opt the experience, we'll call it an experience. But if it does try to get involved with it, it's going to be ...
Ok, so now we are in a different phase of the teaching. I hope you're with me. We've passed over the place where lions and tigers could eat us. They're gone. We're home free now. Rattlesnakes and cobras, they're history now. Now we're in the ...
Is everybody comfortable? Pretty comfortable, bodily relaxed? No distraction, no strong thoughts, just nice clear relaxation? Your mind is not gripping you anymore. Where's your mind? Where's that knot that haunts you all day? That thing that ...
But more like a mobius strip made of flesh, you know, we want to feel good inside that area. Its not enough just to be in the shape of a mobius strip, but we are feelingly involved in existence. We feelingly and consciously want to know what ...
Its just easy to offer who you are in the moment. It's very easy to begin that way, no matter what is offered. No matter what the offering is it can be made beautiful because you are consciously cooperating with who you are and no matter what ...
You're already that mobius strip where the inside is on the outside and yet it's all one. Inside and outside, there is a natural continuum going on, all the time. It's not like you become free just when you know the inside. When you know the ...