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By michael ortega 9 years 2 months ago

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Recently there were technical difficulties with the audio and video transmission during internet broadcast; nevertheless, the Transmission that mattered most was not only NOT interrupted, but palpably much stronger!

This was very instructive to me and it leads me to ask if I can ever be "offline" and not "live" w/David Spero?
Once you've been initiated into this Shakti that seems to be a compelling question. What if I could be online all the of the time?

I tried this recently. I sat down to meditate in a dark room and I postulated this, that I was online, live with David and that I was connected to his blessing. Immediately it happened-- the flow of Shakti filled my entire being.

I have noticed that if I just stop and attune at anytime, that it is possible to locate a current that descends through the top of the head. Of course, there are variations in it's strength, but it began to dawn on me that maybe I've been able to locate this energy for a long time, but I didn't take cognizance of it. For sure, David's influence is crucial as an initiatory and awakening power, but isn't this power also native to my consciousness and my heart?

I just have to believe it and have faith that its possible. That seems to be more than half the battle. The senses are so conditioned to outward movement and flux; they rebel against returning to the source. It's like Pascal said something like, "All evil in this world comes from one thing alone, a man's inability to sit still alone in a room."

Sri Aurobindo said,

"In this yoga all depends on whether one can open to the Influence or not. If there is sincereity in the aspiration and a patient will to arrive at higher consciousness in spite of all obstacles, then the opening in one form or another is sure to come. But it may take a long or short time according to the prepared or unprepared condition of the mind, heart and body; so if you don't have the necessary patience, the effort may be abandoned owing to this difficulty at the begining. There is no method in this yoga except to concentrate, preferably in the Heart and call the presence and power of The Mother to take up the being and by the workings of her Shakti, transform the Consciousness.
The more the faith, the more rapid the result is likely to be."

David Spero is a Real Master. May coming into his radiating field of Shakti rip away the curtains of ignorance and let the sun flash into the room.

As always,
profuse gratitude.


By philringo 9 years 3 months ago

May 13, 09
I first attended David's sessions about 14 months ago.
Personal stuff is male, over 60years and retired.
I seek Truth wherever I can find it which is hard to find because of my culture as a disenfranchised American. i.e. - I'm worth less than a million dollars.
I want to share with you a recent experience which sums up my connection to David.
Last Friday, May 8th I attended the 7:30 PM presentation in Palm Springs.
Now my experience with bliss has been limited and I really did not understand what people were talking about with extended experiences with a blissful condition. It had taken me several months with David to reach any kind of bliss in meditation but I knew meditation was the key.
My blissfulness was always short lived and soon ended just past David's front door.
I felt bliss of a different intensity Friday and was aware that it was staying with me.
I had a busy Saturday planned with another participant of David's sessions and we met about noon with a schedule of hooking up with a local meditation group and pot lucking it to the mountains to visit the"green mana".
Now, I understand that these were ideal and different circumstances i.e.: being with spiritual people, being in nature (the mountains) and meeting with an interesting character who lives totally self sufficient in a tee pee at the base of a mountain.
Normally, for me, it would have been nice, but no big deal, right.
Wrong, I felt an intensity of the bliss within me growing exponentially ALL DAY LONG.
When it came time for me to leave for home I was very emotional.
I cried the 40+ miles back home. Tears of pure joy.
Tears were starting to dry up and I picked up David's book "Beyond the place of laughter and tears" and read a passage on Divine Mother.
I started sobbing uncontrollably for some time. Tears of absolute bliss and sadness at the same time. I slept the most peaceful 5 hours in years.
I awoke Sunday very aware that the bliss was still with me. I was thrilled. I exercised and decided to go back to the mountains by going up a route I have never taken, in my 5 years in the Valley, toward San Diego.
I stopped for water and rest. Closed my eyes and could see wave after wave of bliss and love wash over me. I realized at this time that waves of sadness were also present. So I could see that sadness, bliss and love were washing over me endlessly, all at the same moment. Filling up does not apply here. It was endless, Primal, ever present.
I realized that this is constantly washing over me and that I need only tune into this constant vibration which will be with me always. This is who I really am. This is who we really are.
There are no word or deed that could express my gratitude to David for this journey.
Phil Ringo

By Abha 9 years 3 months ago

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April 14, 2009 - Internet meditation: In the Intensive a few days ago, David took us out of our body during the meditation and since then, my meditations have been more focused above my head, more outside my body. Tonight, after a very ecstatic online meditation, as David talked about letting go of each experience and the fact you will find that you never existed….I suddenly realized, I don't know who is meditating any more. I don't seem to know who David is either. The relationship has shifted. Meditating now, I am taken up and away and sense that David is there, but it's a very quiet bliss, outside of sensation. I don't feel as emotionally attached. It is a bit disconcerting but is also, a perfectly quiet bliss. I feel truly outside of the self I knew. I guess that I have to let this go too....A half hour later after a walk, when I close my eyes my whole body feels like it is vibrating slightly, almost like a fine humming sound. Above my head is the focal point of attention, a very quiet bliss. Compared to other meditations where afterwards, I have a sense of having reached a stepping stone, a resting place, tonight, the meditation is still going full blast but in a very quiet way. Looking at David's picture now, His eyes are Mother's eyes. Beyond feeling, my heart is His heart.

April 22, 2009 -1 day after the Internet meditation - Meditating at home: As I get a small glimpse of who you truly are, the overwhelming compassion and love, my heart just cannot contain that immensity and I am suspended helplessly. After what seems like a very long 15 minutes, you come and dissolve me into That cool bliss of eternity, where I can rest.

By michael ortega 9 years 4 months ago

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I just recently drove to Los Angeles to sit with David. It was the first time I have sat with him in person and been totally open and surrendered. The first time I met him, as I have mentioned previously, I was defensive and angry and distrustful. Now I understand better. I am sure that much more understanding lies ahead of me, but as of now, I understand enough to know how amazing and rare this gem is.

I think of all the crazy L.A. hustle and bustle going on outside, as we were hidden away in a small corporate style meeting room. Nobody out there knowing that in that inconspicuous building was a Master, dispensing the greatest gift you can ever receive. A gift of Spirit-Power that baptizes and initiates one into true devotion, profound stillness and bliss. I couldn't believe it; The transmission is so powerful and deep.

Now I sit here breathing, feeling the Spirit-Current, the Shakti as it descends through the top of my head. I have become more quiet and still. Like sitting in the presence of a beautiful exotic bird, only a foot away, not wanting to frighten it away. All of the ways I normally leak energy through speech and movement are held in check: I don't want these diamonds to fall away from my heart. It is the greatest treasure in the world; the open-secret, the gift of the Master.

It feels like I've received more results than I would have had I undergone a year of therapy. Bare minimum, I have received a healing in opening up the Heart Chakra. It feels like a cool, blue energy, or it's like walking in the forest and coming upon one of those areas where there is a sudden increase in oxygen. Fear and anxiety are lessened. Meditation is still and pure. I went not projecting any expectations, or hoping for anything, except feeling some blissful Shakti but... this is infinite, special, big, beyond time and space. How many adjectives could I use? None of them are nearly adequate. There is absolutely nothing I could say or think here that could possibly be new, or sufficient.

Satsang is crucial. It is the esoteric teaching. Everything else is parables in a labyrinth of delusion.

I hold these diamonds now and stare at them in amazement. They are filled with Ma Kali's Love-Bliss. I will stay up all night looking at them under moonlight, again and again

"I can abandon God, but I would not forsake my Master.
God is not the equal of my Master.

God has given me birth into this world.
My Master has freed me from the cycle of birth and death.

God gave me the five thieves.
My Master freed me from them when I was helpless.

God threw me into the net of the family.
My Master cut away the chain of attachment.

God ensnared me in desire and disease.
My Master has freed me from this by initiating me.

God made me to wander in the illusion of doing.
My Master showed me my being.

God hid himself from me.
My Master gave me a lamp to illuminate him.

Above all, God created this duality of bondage and freedom.
My Master destroyed all these illusions.

I offer myself, body, mind and soul
At the feet of my Master, Charandas.

I can abandon God, but I can never abandon my Master."


Thank You.

By davidspero 9 years 4 months ago

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The Fire Beyond Self Realization
- a transcribed and edited talk by David Spero (June 26, 2004)

If you feel that the only actually, and fundamentally, real thing in the human being is pure consciousness or the Absolute, then the topics of bhakti, of love, and parabhakti, supreme devotion, are moot topics. They're non-topics, or, in the very worst scenario, they are taboo.

Since I adore silent Transcendental Consciousness and the rapture of full feeling, I feel quite comfortable with either topic. They both climaxed in my experience, and I invite you into that same mysterious, adorational consciousness, adorational pure consciousness.

So if you feel then, that the actuality of consciousness, the fullness of it (the totally awakened state) contains both feeling and transcendence, then the imminent question is: what is feeling in a Self-realized life?

Last week we spoke of advaita Vedanta and how Self-realization - that is, the transformation of the subject into Consciousness, Being or the Absolute, permanently, is advaita Vedanta in its fullness. We spoke about that and the different aspects of that realization; all that remains true.

In advaita Vedantic purity the subject is Consciousness, forever and ever and ever. However, it is my experience that as one lives day by day in a Self-realized state, the sensation of being the Absolute Itself fades. It dissolves.

Believe me, it's quite a flash when you come into that Absolute Awareness; that you are the Uncreated, or Unborn. It's a flash which, when it goes on flashing, forever, is permanent. The echo of that initial flash keeps on coming back into your awareness forever and ever. Not that you literally keep flashing into It (which you may), but that the vasana, or deep, deep memory of It, remains. It remains in Its own unfathomable, secretive, nature.

It is a state of bewilderment, then, that engulfs the human being as the sensation of being the Absolute fades. One begins to become bewildered; it's an “enlightened bewilderment.” After all, what could be said about becoming the Immortal and then forgetting that you are That! Strange. How can you forget something that's not even in the mind? Yet, one finds that Consciousness -- the impact of It in the mind, the residual effect that is left, the impression -- fades. It dissolves and so one can move, at that point, into a ferocious kind of bewilderment, an angry, enlightened bewilderment. That sounds strange. I know I'm violating spiritual etiquette by putting those words together, but I've never been one to bow down before spiritual etiquette, and neither should you.

That bewilderment re-invites the emotions back into life. In Self-realization the emotions were transcended. In a sense, there was nothing you could really feel in that Self-realized state that could really make a significant impact, any significant impact in your Awareness. But once the Self “fades,” then the identification with the Absolute dissolves. By the way, it doesn't dissolve existentially. I want to be very clear about this. It doesn't dissolve in reality. Only the sensation, the experience of It fades. Okay? You've got it? Only the experience of It fades.

The emotions are then set free in that vast silence, where they panic - the feelings panic because the nature of feeling is to want an object. Feeling always wants an object. It's its nature; it's its beautiful, exquisite, relational nature. So it craves “the Other.” It craves, really, the Beloved, at that point, the forgotten Beloved Self. But if existentially you are nothing but the Self, what can the feelings really do? Where really can they go to find this “Other,” this Beloved?

The feelings begin to combust. It's really the introduction to a maddening state. Have you ever been in love? I mean, have you ever really been taken with someone? You know what happens! You can't get them out of your head. You can't get them out of your mind. It's just like the Absolute that you once experienced in nirvana and the processes leading up to nirvana -- the whole process of glimpsing, re-glimpsing until you become the Glimpser. Now this whole thing gets re-enacted in the field of feeling. Feeling is craving the Supreme Beloved, the Adorable One. But, it's already in a nondual state (that was achieved in Self-realization, right?). I'm going to keep going back and forth so you understand. I don't want to lose you.

The emotions begin to heat up, profoundly. It's a discomforting state of aggravated feeling. In fact, you could even say, that the essential aspects of every emotion are activated -- anger, fear, sorrow -- but in an illumined state.

The human being naturally begins to be turned on itself in a most enthralling manner. You've felt deep sexual passion, deep sexual desire? It's like that. Only, where is it going to go? There's no “other.” So the feelings begin to really feel themselves for the very first time.

You know, you've never been alive until you are Self-realized. You've been some kind of dead, robotic automaton walking around and functioning. You've been a completely conditioned mass of reflexes: memory, experience, desire; fear, anger, pain. That's what you are prior to Self-realization. Self-realization dissolves all that, reveals your true identity as perfect consciousness -- and therefore you've attained Knowledge. You are That. Aham Brahasmi. I am the Absolute.

So what's happening in this state when feeling is awoken in Consciousness? The body-mind goes up into flame. It starts to incinerate. And as I said, you've never felt before. You've never felt before. You never really quite felt before Self-realization, you went numb during Self-realization, so this is the first time you've ever felt. Do you see where this is going?

So feeling -- it's as if a little baby is given a toy. The child is insane with this toy. The child goes mad in its own joy. It's never felt a thing, ever.

The human body-mind in ignorance has not felt one thing. Everything has been in the conditioned. Then you hit the unconditioned and there's no feeling and now the incineration begins to happen, which is the mad search for feeling, for the nature of feeling, for the object of feeling, for the subject of feeling -- for the subject, the object, and the process of feeling become spontaneously activated in nirvana, in Self-realization. See, we're going beyond Self-realization now. And so the body-mind begins to incinerate, the mind incinerates, the emotions incinerate. Everything goes up into this heated Self-embrace.

It may actually take the form of seeking for what you believe to be an outer “other.” You may think you're looking for someone “out there” or something “out there,” someplace “out there” - something you really want to touch with your whole being, something that you're hungry for, ravenous, consumed in a desire to feel and taste and sense.

You see, there's no intellectualization going on about this when you're in this state. This is not something you're rationalizing. You're not saying: “well, I'm Self-realized and therefore I'm resurrected in feeling now.” You are desperate. And, the various spiritual insanities become born in this stage, this stage that not every Enlightened Being enters into.

Beyond that aggravated feeling is consummate Unity where Self and world are one. And every aspect of your human subjective functioning -- emoting, thinking, feeling, sensing -- all the different senses, all of them arise in Consciousness, all of them function in Consciousness - with Consciousness having permeated right to the surface of every finite aspect of the human being. So, you see, that feeling creates a massive climax, a massive orgasm in Consciousness.

It could take many years to go through this if you are even invited into this arena. You can't produce it deliberately. It's an inborn hunger that you either have or you don't have. Some beings will become very “comfortable” in Self-realization. They could even spend several births in the state of Self-realization, dozens of births in the state of Self-realization. Some could spend dozens of births in this state of intoxication with feeling. And then others can take higher states -- “different,” I don't like that word “higher” but -- qualitatively different states of awakening even beyond this devotional rapture.

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa depicted some of these aberrated, psycho-pathological states of God-intoxication, either exemplifying his total union with God, Self, and world, or experiencing the “junction point” between Self-realization and God-intoxication, when these states of enamored feeling are just beginning. Either way we don't know. It's said somewhere that he began to identify with the Monkey-God Hanumann to such an extent that would go around naked jumping from tree to tree on his ashram grounds, he'd be peeing from this high trees; and there are other less tame stories about some of the things he did.

So you get a glimpse of something beyond the Glimpser, beyond Self-realization -- something else is going on. When the Divine comes down totally into the nervous system -- and it has abducted that nervous system, you know? You don't like words like abduction, invasion, violation – sorry, that's what happens in these more ecstatic states.

I haven't spoken about the Kundalini-shakti and Its role in all of this. It's a whole other topic. But you can just say that the Shakti is, as Current, activated after Self-realization - perhaps before Self-realization, through Self-realization, and after Self-realization - in these intoxicated moods. But that Current gives a blissful feeling of being gripped by the Divine, the feeling of being made love to by the Divine. It intensifies this devotional rapture -- this devotional relationship with Being -- and then takes one beyond it. After the flash of Self and world as one in Divine Unity then even that fades. Any experience will fade, the impressions of it. But the residues of all those states of consciousness will stay with you, the essence of them, the livingness of them.

So later on you have sahaja samadhi which is absolute relaxation in Consciousness Itself from the depths of pure consciousness all the way to the surface of the body, through the body and to everything and everyone that sees that body or touches it, or is in the vicinity of it. That is sahaja samadhi. That's the natural state because it has been released of all the different major fluctuations of consciousness. All of that was enlightenment before that and did contain tremendous truths -- even Truth.

Sahaja, as if, just relaxes in the Bliss of It All, which is both felling and silence and what is beyond them. It is love and detachment and what is beyond them. One lives in this innocence of sweet unknowingness, of Divine Unknowingness.

But in sahaja samadhi you live naturally. If you want to eat, you eat. There's no more austerity, unless you enjoy that. There's nothing to do except to enjoy. You are the Enjoyer. You enjoy everything. There's no more philosophizing about inner and outer and transcendence and immanence, God and karma. There's no more talk about that. You're released of it all. It has released you, it has finally let go of you.

And then there are states beyond sahaja samadhi. It depends of what you've been born with, what you have acquired through incarnations, previous awakenings, what kind of spiritual practices you've done in previous births, the type of practices, the meeting with Avatars, receiving the transmission of Avatars and Maha-Avatars and all of that.

You can't imagine the scope of what it all means. No one can. I'm just sharing some thoughts with you, that's all. All of this is just talk, really. It's just killing the time. It's enjoyment. I like to talk (laughter). I'm not out to impress anyone. I don't care what anyone thinks about what I say. It's just what comes out.